Clinton By Candlelight

Some 300 people gathered on Tuesday night at the Brentwood home of CAA's David O'Connor and his wife, Lona Williams, anxious to see the guest of honor, Bill Clinton.

Then the power went out --- in the entire neighborhood --- putting this Hillary Clinton fund-raiser into near total darkness.

The only light came from candles and some battery operated lanterns, which were shined on Clinton when he spoke in the backyard pool area. That helped, but it was still hard to see guests. And with no electricity, and therefore no microphone, it wasn't always easy to hear, according to a guest.

"There are a lot of great things about the modern world," Clinton said, according to the guest. "Predictable electricity may not be one of them."

Among those present, in addition to the hosts, were Steve Bing, Jerry Zucker, Ron Burkle, Frank and Carol Biondi and Gary Ross. Also present was Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa, who you can only guess had to endure some ribbing about the DWP. CAA's Michael Kives introduced the former president.

Not that it mattered, as Clinton delivered his pitch without missing a beat, emphasizing his wife's chief attributes as "the most qualified non-incumbent of my lifetime." He talked of his willingness to do whatever she asked him to do, although he doubted that would be a cabinet post, citing federal anti-nepotism laws.

Fittingly, a big chunk of Clinton's speech was about energy policy.

Comments

[JoeS]

These multi-millionaires can't even get electricity from the government. We want to turn over our health care to these same incompetent morons?

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20070914/belinda_Stronach_070914/20070914?hub=Health

A Canadian member of Parliament who has a breast tumor came to America for medical care. The newspaper tries to say that this does not mean that she does not trust the Canadian medical system. This is insulting, but the people of Canada can't seem to figure this out.

Don't be ignorant, they do not want to live under the system they expect us to live under. It is only about personal power, We have it now, they want it.

[Chuckles]

Someone tell these rich geniouses about generator sets. I'm not rich but I have one.

[Willy Brown]

Everytime Bill opens his mouth it weakens the nation as well.

[Kristina]

Are you seriously attacking their lack of generator use? And JoeS, are you suggesting that the rich hold some kind of bargain with the DWP that would allow them to keep electricity? Do you think that Then they would be qualified to legislate health care?

C'mon... let's have a substantive argument.

At least make your post worth your time - and mine.

[Eagle]

Hillary during her health care czar days when Bill was President, show their true spots. Part of her health care plan was to force doctors into certain medical specialities that would benifit the general population. Imagine if someone told Edision he could not be an Inventor, but it would be better for the sick that he work as a nurse. We would be in the dark today, and sometimes I think we are when it comes to the Clintons.

[Health Care Mania]

If the Canadian Health Care system is so good at saving lives ... how come Americans don't run accross the Canadian border for treatment ...

No it's the Canadians that run accross the American border for treatment and HILLARY-SCARE will destroy our quality of health.

HILLARYISM == Envy of Corporate Profits.
Envy of Healthy People.
Envy of American Prosperity.
Envy of Power.

Nazism == Envy of Corporate Profits.
Envy of Jewish prosperity.
Envy of youth and health.
Envy of Power.

Not much difference between Hillaryism and Nazism. Unions and teachers voted for the NAZIS ... and Unions and teachers will vote for Hillary.

[Ron Jon]

Is Bill that President who had sex with the chubby intern? Oh yes, that's how I remember that name.

[joe]

i think the american people want to know how monica is doing these days. is billy willy still in touch? also, what was the definition of IS? lastly, who is hillarys current lesbian lover?

[SteveH]

Joe S - In regards to your "Canadian MP Going to the US for treament". This was not an issue about trust. In fact, that type of treatment was only available in California.

Health Care Mania - You need professional help. You must work for drug company or you are some type of lobbyist to be so delusional. Thank God Canadians provide health care to ALL of their citizens, not just the ones that can afford it.

Get your facts straight.

[SteveH]

David Vitter, Larry Craig... Should I keep listing the names of the right wing hypocrites. At least Bill admitted he was wrong. He isn't perfect, but at least he wasn't campaigning (or voting) on certain "moral" issues and then doing the complete opposite.

Cigars anyone?

[Eagle]

Please let us get pass Nixon and Clinton, they are the detestable people whom we elected as president. We just need to remember never to do that again. As in Hillary, Obama, Kerry, and McCain. Obama reminds me of Carter. A do-nothing, screw-it up liberal. Lets have a real presidental election with Zell Miller, Lieberman, Newt Gingrich, Fred Thompson and Giuliani. Ok Lieberman is a stretch but I was having problems finding a decent Democrat.

[Eve Nelson]

Bill Clinton is the sorriest excuse for a President we have ever had;....over the last 25 years he is responsible for the downward spiral of our youths morals. My children grew up under his governorship....and (their)Presidency and the only one thing to identify him with is his immorality and the kids consider him a joke. What does it say about the adults of this country who can still be anamored by these two after the damage that was done in the 90's to the moral fiber of this country.
Wake up America...they are NOT what they seem.

[Paul]

There not just talking Health Care for all citzens That why they are calling it Universal. They are talking about giving it to illegals too while they leave the border wide open. Why don't we just name it Health Care for Mexico

[Eve Nelson]

Bill Clinton is the sorriest excuse for a President we have ever had;....over the last 25 years he is responsible for the downward spiral of our youths morals. My children grew up under his governorship....and (their)Presidency and the only one thing to identify him with is his immorality and the kids consider him a joke. What does it say about the adults of this country who can still be anamored by these two after the damage that was done in the 90's to the moral fiber of this country.
Wake up America...they are NOT what they seem.

[Paul]

There not just talking Health Care for all citzens That why they are calling it Universal. They are talking about giving it to illegals too while they leave the border wide open. Why don't we just name it Health Care for Mexico

[Paul]

There not just talking Health Care for all citzens That why they are calling it Universal. They are talking about giving it to illegals too while they leave the border wide open. Why don't we just name it Health Care for Mexico

[Paul]

There not just talking Health Care for all citzens That why they are calling it Universal. They are talking about giving it to illegals too while they leave the border wide open. Why don't we just name it Health Care for Mexico

[Paul]

There not just talking Health Care for all citzens That why they are calling it Universal. They are talking about giving it to illegals too while they leave the border wide open. Why don't we just name it Health Care for Mexico

[Eagle]

SteveH, you have got to be kidding! At least Clinton admitted to it??? After 9 months of lying. Lying under oath to a Federal Judge. He was exposed when a wad of Bills showed up, that kind of identified the what 'IS' is in his no sex story. How about the other women that he assulted? The Bill and Hillary team put a squash on alot of those stories to keep them buttoned down. Made them out to be the bad guys 'er girls.

[Eagle]

"Why don't we just name it Health Care for Mexico?" Correction, Health Care for Aliens, that would include people from third world countries all over the world. We allow 1 Million legals into this country every year and the world has 6 million babies. Are we going to bring every sick person in to this country and support their health care?? We would have to start stacking them up in the Grand Canyon to handle the millions that would flood the borders every year.

[steve]

THAT IS AWESOME, THE HYPOCRITE

[Zucconium]

Who really turned out those lights? Karl Rove? Perhaps that darkly twisted genius Dick Cheney? Seems mighty suspicious...!

Interesting to note that on today's Drudge headline Hillary's "free" healthcare may mean mandatory purchase to quality for a job. Lights out on that one.

[melinda]

If you are not familiar with Tenn Care in Al Gore's home state then you should check it out before you vote.

[Isaac]

No one in the U.S. is denied health care. Whether a person can afford health insurance is the issue. They say over 45 million are with out health care, but doe s not cover the folks who have chosen to purchase it themselves. AND I am sure that it does not take into account the folks who make sure that their cell phone and cable TV bills are paid to date.

[painhertz]

Paul...you're a moron.

[Crackpotpress]

There must be a way I can pin this on Enron.

Why is everyone so uptight about a blackout?

The morality issue on this string amazes me. Do this many people think lying about sex is more immoral than lying about violence?

Also about the Nixon thing. Nixon did do good things. He had goals and accomplishments. In this day and age I would welcome a Nixon back. I like him ten time mores than Bush.

[Mace]

Bill Clinton in the dark?

Instant Karma!!

[Crackpotpress]

oh and one more thing...

to: If the Canadian Health Care system is so good at saving lives ... how come Americans don't run accross the Canadian border for treatment ...

Uh, we do run across the border. As a type-1 diabetic I am uninsurable.

[Dave]

I would only have one question for Hillary, does she know the meaning of the word, "is"? We know that the hillbilly that she married, didn't, so does she know it?

[Crackpotpress]

oh and one more thing...

to: If the Canadian Health Care system is so good at saving lives ... how come Americans don't run accross the Canadian border for treatment ...

Uh, we do run across the border. As a type-1 diabetic I am uninsurable.

[BRB]

Hmmm, energy, energy...Like the kind you pull out of the ground? The kind the Clintons made millions on in a "blind trust" with investments in Halliburton. The kind that they demonize constantly now that they have fed from the trough and want to close it off for the rest of us. The Clintons are among the most corrupt power mongering Politicians on the Beltway.

[Gars Luber]

I see that the Chicken Hawks have found this story.

Keep whining and moaning. You'll need the practice for the next election.

LOL!

chicken hawks are suckers

[Gars Luber]

Eagle, Clinton didn't lie under oath. You just didn't get the chicken hawk response that you wanted.

Don't blame us that chicken hawk lawyers aren't very good.

[Stan B]

When Hillary and the Global Warming Activists get their way, rolling blackouts in California will return, and become commonplace across the country as utility companies struggle to meet Carbon Cap restrictions.

So, GET USED TO IT!

[Chris A. Wisc.]

If the Clintons get elected we are all doomed. At least with Bush he does do what he say's he's going to do. With the Clintons, you have no idea until it's way to late. NO MORE AL GORE!!!!!!

[Paul]

"A Canadian member of Parliament who has a breast tumor came to America for medical care. The newspaper tries to say that this does not mean that she does not trust the Canadian medical system. This is insulting, but the people of Canada can't seem to figure this out."

Most of us can figure it out. We have the same problem as Americans. Too many liberals and their compliant media.

[Paul]

Just for the record...I am not Paul the Moron...rather Paul the Canuck

[JB]

hey Steve H..
"At least Bill admitted he was wrong."

????

Noooooooooo. He was caught. He wagged his finger at us and lied, and then was caught lying under oath.

Please enough with the revisionist history, only dumb leftists believe in that crap

[Dave]

SteveH
We already have universal health care, if you don't have insurance you go to the emergency room and never pay a single bill.
All of the drug addicts get put on the same organ donor list with the folks with insurance (insurability is not a spec on the list nor a requirement) Wise UP

[RogerC]

USA has a health care system that provides free medical care to those who are willing to wait in line at the hospitals and clinics that offer it. Those who do not want to wait can go to another location and pay the cost (probably covered by insurance). The discussion should be on how to pay for the free service not if it is provided.

[EMack]

I'm a type 1 insulin dependent diabetic and I have no problem getting health insurance. Crackpotpress (what a name..) is there something more you're not telling us? Also, I recently changed health insurance companies so that's not the issue either.

[l921428x]

california has a power problem, and they cant build a power generating plant. thank a liberal/enviornmentalist, now bill richardson says the fat should be covered under the americans with disabilities act.
will the socialist/progressives please pick up your toys and go to where your ideas work.

[Karl]

Most of the outages this summer in LA have been in the rich areas...they are the ones who use the most with their plasma tvs, air conditioning for dozens of rooms, etc. The infrastructure has never been upgraded, with some transformers and lines dating back 60 or more years, and the policy of the DWP is to repair when it blows.

[Joe Shea]

I guess the Secret Service people guarding Bill were the ones with the flashlights - that's a pretty unusual situation to be in for them. But speaking of the spotlight being on Bill, I wonder what would happen if the Denver DNC deadlocked on Obama and Hillary and someone put his name forward. I think Democrats would vastly prefer him to his wife, As I understand the constitutional issues, once he has been out for qa full term, he can run again and even serve two more terms. In fact, I'm going to predict that's what will happen in Denver.

[djg]

For SteveH

Kind of like when that couple came over the border for the birth of the babies. I guess that this type of treatment was only available in the u.s.

[Mitch Pawl]

How long will it take the Democrats to blame George Bush for turning off the power to Brentwood homes?

I bet it is a right wing conspiracy and that the US Government did it on purpose. Why was it that when the power did come back on no one could find slick willy??? He was hiding under some lady’s skirt.

As far as the PM of Canada coming down for cancer surgery, I wish her all the best and a fast recovery. I would not want to wish that on anyone.

Where is that Psycho Moore at??? I thought that Canada had one of the best medical systems in the world and that the US should follow their lead???

I GUESS NOT.

[Caleb]

SteveH: Your ignorance seems to have been roundly criticized as it is, but I'll add a few things.

The Canadian MP flap: yes, the procedures is only available in California -- not Canada. But that's the whole point, Steve. When you have socialized medicine you remove the incentive for specialists. That's why people who need urologists, endocrinologists, etc are by and large out of luck or have to wait an obscene amount of time.

And yes, we've got some hypocritical Republicans who've been caught doing some naughty sh*t, but that's the difference between us, isn't it? A republican does something bad the party and the base shun him and he resigns: Nixon and Craig. But Democrats? You do something wrong and the base, the party, and the media back you all the way and cries "right wing conspiracy".

[Roberta]

I'm amazed how mindless and unrelevant most comments are. I happened to be there, though not wealthy and saw a very intelligent, informed, and calm man. Able to answer with actual data and facts and not pointless rhetoric or stumbling as Bush does. We are indebted now, to so many countries when Clinton had us with a surplus budget. What can you possibly say about that? Amazing how hateful you all sound with each other, based on party lines, and not real facts or issues.

[tp]

The only thing the world has learned from the Clintons is oral sex. What a legacy!

[JLM]

"We are indebted now, to so many countries when Clinton had us with a surplus budget. "

Don't confuse balance of trade with budget surplus. You're as confused as the the people you're miseducating. If you knew ANYTHING about either one, perhaps you wouldn't be a dumocrat. Your "real facts and issues" are totally erroneous and are unrelated, like most of the left's content. Good luck out there...

[Blade]

The lights go out and so do they with all your idiot two party cat fighting comments. All politicians are stinking lying Free Masons owned by the Illuminati, raping Americans for a buck and a blow job. Don't vote and don't pay taxes! F*** the federal government up the a**!

[Evan]

The lights are going out on this one-party dominance in the US gov't. Unfortunately it took segregationist Governor Wallace to reveal the truth that "there's not a dime's worth of difference between" Republicans and Democrats. The Democrats willingly went along with the War in Iraq, suspension of Habeas Corpus, detaining protesters, banning books like "America Deceived' from Amazon, stealing private lands (Kelo decision), warrant-less wiretapping and refusing to investigate 9/11 properly. They are both guilty of treason.
Support Dr. Ron Paul and save this great country.
Last link (before Google Books bends to gov't Will and drops the title):
http://www.iuniverse.com/bookstore/book_detail.asp?&isbn=0-595-38523-0

[Tom]

Can he seriously compare HRC's qualifications
as a non incumbent to that of George H.W. Bush when he ran for President? And say she is the most qualified non incumbent in his lifetime. A strong argument can be made that she is the least qualified. And once again, even in a speech about her, he cannot get over himself and still brings the focus back to him.
His narcissism is only exceeded by O.J's

[jake]

here's a fun thought for you.
hill becomes president and bill is her vice president.
hill has an unfortunate accident.
bill becomes president, again.
wow.
don't taze me, bro.

[Bryce]

What these comments show is that govt. has us right where it wants us. Fighting with each other instead of dealng with real issues. Everything you guys are arguing about is media fueled B.S. none of us knows the truth.

[Stew]

"He talked of his willingness to do whatever she asked him to do"

Kinda like the "love, honor & cherish" vow he took when they got married?

How'd that work out for ya, Cankles?

If Cankles Clinton can't control her own husband, how's she going to control the country?

[Willy Brown]

People in America who think a National Health care program would work in the USA have not studied the over taxed and the unemployment rates are in the U.K., France and Canada or truly believe that Big government is suppose to take care of you cradle to grave. If it sooo good why are not the Yanks running across the boarder and fly across the pond? As for the Clintoons, you all can have them, trailer park and all.

[patient]

medical care does not = healthcare
Healthcare is insurance....ours sucks
Medical care is just that....and the US has the best

[Patti]

The Canadian system only works for those that are young and healthy. My brother-in-law, now a US citizen recently from Canada, has had to sit back and watch his brother denied the 4way bypass he needed only to get a partial bypass and his father denied any care for 4 months after being diagnosed with colon cancer. He died for lack of treatment! He now damns the Canadian system since it killed his father!

[ronski]

I think if the government is forced by the liberals to create and maintain a nanny-state of cradle-to-grave health care, then it should require a mandatory military or civil service to the government in return. If you wanna play, you gotta pay!

[Capt'n Canaduh]

Compared to most of the third world , Canaduhs health system rocks.

In you are a genetic mutant in the third world , moving to Canaduh gets you free treatment for the entire family.

Canaduh is and always will be
1) A joke
2) Mainly made up of queer men from toronto and or montreal and large amounts of the third world
3) someplace to be FROM ..ask Hollyweird.

[R W]

Too few "get it", too few care: we are losing our freedoms, our sovereignty, and our national sensibilities. How? First we did away with the Hayes Act that prevented actors from cussing in the movies and showing skin and people in bed together.

Then the 60's came along and the liberals went nuts. The ACLU (incorporated in the 1930's as the American Communist Lawyers' Union ... look it up) has had a field day ever since slowly but surely doing its thing to undermine the moral structure of our country -- to bring about the ultimate defeat of this country from within (the Marxist/Stalinist pledge), to and create the ultimate socialist utopia.

We're darned near there, folks; no God in schools or public places; atheist's sensibilities and minority religions are held to be more important that those of the majority; diversity training (a liberal idea meant to 'unify' us) divides and fractures us more and more -- eliminating the idea of the great "melting pot" that America was meant to be; politicians who go to Washington to get rich and re-elected instead of to "serve" (what a quaint idea).

We need to go back to the idea of part-time representatives and senators (five months in DC, five months in their district, and two months off for good behavior), with NO retirement or health benefits. Strict term limits (two terms in and you're out, and no possibility for later re-election!)

We took away the dignity of people to plan for their own future by creating a social welfare state -- social security -- and now everyone demands it as a "right" (even illegal aliens), and it gives the government the right to over 15% of your paycheck with no accountability on their part. And congress has the nerve to tell you that you don't have the right to direct how even PART of that should be invested!

Contrary to the Constitution, congress enacted (but did not properly ratify...even though the courts have {illegally} upheld it...) an income tax, and we -- dumb sheep that we are -- continue to go along with it. Do we not remember 1776? Taxation without representation ring a bell? A LIBERTY BELL?? 50% of the populace pays no income tax, the rest of us pay 96% of ALL taxes. And EVERYBODY gets to vote.Where's the justice in that?

And some of you want to tax ME for YOUR health care, too? Give me a break. My employer and I pay for mine. That means I pay for it. You see, if my employer weren't offering me benefits, I could get that money in the form of a higher salary. Or, if not from him, I could get it somewhere else. That's the way the free marketplace works.

If you don't understand that, you probably went to a public school. I know, I teach at one. I go out of my way to augment the standard curriculum so my students graduate smarter than the average. I think they'll be grateful later on because they'll understand this kind of blog.

Liberal academia doen't want you or your children to understand how the system really works, that's why they dumb-down history, teach next to nothing about our founding documents, economic theory (except to make socialism sound "fair and equitable"), or real morality. But Earth Day!! Why isn't it a national holiday, for Gaia's sake??

The party machinery needs willing, compliant masses to do their bidding.
To keep control of non-existant 'trust-funds'.
To keep 'fooling the rubes' until they retire and all the problems are somebody else's problem.
To get parks and highways and bridges named after them.
To get all the perks they keep voting themselves.
To keep themselves in power.

I'm voting AGAINST every incumbant next election. I hope you do the same. Let's shake them to their boots, and take control of OUR government back!

[bill]

don't forget Barney Frankfurter voting as did Vitter & Craig on issues that infected oops effected his personal life. Did Barnyard report the extra income he got when his boyfriend was running the prostitution business? How about your leader the "Exalted Cyclops" from his days running the KKK? How do Defeatocrats call anybody racist when one of their most "respected" leaders was a KKK bigwig?

[Wondering]

Did the "Bubba" attack any women while the lights were out?????????

[RS]

And the Republicans wonder why they lost a bunch of seats in 2006. You morons here are perfect examples.

If some of you would read things other than Drudge headlines you would realize that Hillary's plan doesn't model Canada, but more successful programs in Germany and France.

Her plan will cut costs for you, the freaking middle class, and allow others in lower classes to have something that will improve our economy, cut back on the number of sick days lost in the workplace, as well as fix a system that is getting more and more expensive every day.

Most of you are happy with the status quo, an unwinnable war, health care costs getting out of control, sending out 12 million people that are vital to the economy...most of you need to look past 2007, and figure out where we are going to be in 2020.

The Democrats are the only people who even think beyond today, and sees what the world economy is going to be like in 20 years. And, yes, it is time to realize we live in a world economy and not a national economy.

You do realize your tax cuts are being paid for by the Chinese, Koreans, Japanese, and even the Mexicans. In order to pay for these tax cuts we are BORROWING money from countries that are our trade rivals.

How do you think that affects are foreign policy, when you can't bitch slap the people you are competing against, becuase you are borrowing money from them.

Use your heads people. Bill Clinton was the smartest and most affective President this country had seen in a long, long time. To not give him credit is just plain assinine.

[Keep Wondering]

Nice partisan diatribe, Wondering. I haven't had such a good laugh in a long time.

Clinton, a smart "affective" President?

"... affects are foreign policy .."

You're under-educated and under-informed. Go back to school.

[Lulu]

"At least with Bush he does do what he say's he's going to do. With the Clintons, you have no idea until it's way to late."

Just like Hillary Care. We aren't being given the specifics, and if she is elected guess who will take care of the details?

" Clinton's top health-care policy adviser, told the Washington Post that Clinton would let Congress work out the details. "We're going to leave a lot of this to the congressional committees," she said.

So the Senate Committee on Health, Education, Labor and Pensions, chaired by Sen. Ted Kennedy, and the House Committee on Energy and Commerce, chaired by Rep. John Dingell, will get to devise America's new health care system if Clinton becomes president."

"Hillary's plan doesn't model Canada, but more successful programs in Germany and France."

Universal Health Care is in trouble or failing everywhere it is in use. Just Google 'universal health care' and see for yourself. Democrats say some 45 million are without health care. 45% of those are illegal aliens. If about 85 percent of those remaining, have health care, we do not need a Universal Health Care. Do you smoke? Does drinking cause your health problems? Are you obese? Under Universal Health Care, you can be denied care unless you rid yourself of those habits that cause your health problems. Signup would be mandatory. That's why you'd need proof of health care to get a job. Say NO to Universal Health Care.
It is hugely expensive and doesn't work.

[Wegs]

My grandmother liked to say that no political party could possibly have all the right ideas nor all the wrong ideas. Too many people place their party's success over their country's.

[Kuni Lemmel]

democrats/republicans today are just new age fascists

What the Nazis promised: state health care, state retirement income (social security), state unemployment benefits, state guaranteed wages (minimum wage), state nursery care, state feminist laws, and state gun control. Does this sound familiar? It should. The federal government, controlled by democrats, aided by pusillanimous republicans, has done it all. Find the democrat senator that brought Nazi gun laws to the U.S. here:
http://www.jpfo.org/cs34.htm http://www.stephenhalbrook.com/article-nazilaw.pdf

Politics is practicable application of philosophy. Philosophy is interpretive religion. Religion is the worship and service of God; or some other, or some system. Politics essentially defines who, what, and how people may worship---Evan Dimitroff.

[James D]

RS,
First off, Hillary's forced health plan will cost me more money. I pay for my health care with cash. Now I'll have to pay into a plan to support idiots who don't take care of themselves. And suppose this plan did save me money. Where would this money come from? Will the Feds point a gun at my neighbors and take their money and give it to me? No thanks, I'm not a looter. As far as the huge debt we have, the last I looked, government revenues have increased every single year for the past 7 years. The problem is the liberals spending it all.

[MoralMan]

Hey SteveH...You say Clinton wasn't campaigning or voting on any moral issues at the time he and Monica made the exchange. I was under the impression he was still living under the vote all married men make when they say "I do."

[dkw]

I have just had the best set of laughs reading the posts in this comments section. Almost every comment is a malformed collection of partisan ideology and falsehoods - each twisted by the specific morality plays of the writer.

This is great material...

[dkw]

...and now my words have been put into someone else's mouth. Great comments tracker.

[DG]

Okay about health care... Do the liberal minded forget that the medicaid program COVERS the poor who don't need to be covered. Most of the middle class get health care through their employers... However, the rich tend not to have health care and prefer to just pay out of pocket. Therefore, a health care program would not be beneficial to the poverty stricken and would in turn one of the bankrupting factors of our government. Not only that, but okay sure Canada's health care system is screwed...but look at the other countries of Europe, they are trying to get out of nationalized health care in hopes of privatization again because of such problems.

A three year wait for hemorrhoids to be treated in Britain; that's gotta be a painful desk job...

[DG]

Okay about health care... Do the liberal minded forget that the medicaid program COVERS the poor who don't need to be covered. Most of the middle class get health care through their employers... However, the rich tend not to have health care and prefer to just pay out of pocket. Therefore, a health care program would not be beneficial to the poverty stricken and would in turn one of the bankrupting factors of our government. Not only that, but okay sure Canada's health care system is screwed...but look at the other countries of Europe, they are trying to get out of nationalized health care in hopes of privatization again because of such problems.

A three year wait for hemorrhoids to be treated in Britain; that's gotta be a painful desk job...

[DG]

Sorry about the double post... I am being educated by a state-ran university and technology is kind of lax... No pun intended my liberal friends!!! (but hey I lost my scholarship to an illegal!!!, fun stuff thank you very much Democrats of Arkansas)

[JOEL GOODMAN]

Wouldn't it have been great if Slick Willy was holding the electric wires when the lights went back on?
That would be almost as good as having Hillary sitting on his lap at that time.

High voltage would be a treat for them both.

[Scarecrow]

No one died when Clinton got a hummer. But we did WASTE MILLIONS trying to investigate a spooge stain... but for all the lies Bush has told, we get no investigation..

I would rather have a guy that has a sex drive and can talk to people lead than a dullard that cant talk/read deciding to kill thousands for his buddies.

[DG]

Also as a member of our Armed forces, I resent your attacks regarding bush and the killing of "thousands" for his buddies. Maybe all of you liberals should be signing up for what we do every day overseas. You, if you are still halfway able to control your own thoughts, would realize that the we're doing what we set out to do and it's not oil. Isn't it sad that the media did cover up the documentation outlining the WMDs and the fact that Russia helped move most of them? Also, how about the fact that our NBC units found chemical and biological weaponry that were isotopically dated to be younger than the 1998 UN Resolution barring their development in Iraq. It's amazing being in the armed forces and a trained geologist. I know how of those worlds (war and oil) work and let me tell you we're not putting them together.

[Crackpotpress]

Re: Prexisitng conditions and health insurance.

I am freelance consultant and can't health insurance. Been trying still have a few more days before I get completely eliminated.

[DG]

I hate saying this, but as anyone who understands government and has had a Civics class in Junior High knows... The government CANNOT solve everyones problems. There are over 300 million people in this country and its ridiculous for us to expect this government to solve and to be able to afford to handle all of these problems. I come from a hardworking immigrant family and we bust our butts to make it in this country and accept our own fates. We are grateful to not live in the European hell my grandparents came from and will not ask for a handout in any way. Why has this country degraded itself so badly? Socialism is next and look what happened under Stalin... Didn't Hillary praise Stalin a few months ago? I heard a speech but it seemed to have been quickly covered up...